kind of a year are you expecting in 2013? >> i think a good year. i think if the government can just get out of the way, go ahead and tell us what the rules are going to be, whatever they're going to be. make the rules step up to the plate and act responsibly, make some decisions. and then i think the free market system and our business leaders and businesses, small business owners, will make it work. >> are a lot of people in business talking about what's going on with guns and the potential for new gun legislation? i mean, this week we saw sporting goods chain dick's stop selling assault rifles. private equity firm saying it's going to sell its interest in the freedom group all in the wake of the tragedy we're still in mourning over, in connecticut. do you think we'll see real change in gun laws? >> yeah, because i think the president is committed to bringing something forward very quickly. senator feinstein is bringing something up, as well. i don't think there's any business person that i've come across that -- over the last week or so that has not talked about what's happened he
